shardsofblu replied to your audio post “I got tagged by xredriverx Your name and username. Where you’re…”
Yayy your voice! :D If I may ask, what’s the dialect you’re using to call your grandparents? Is it still Mandarin or something else?
Of course! :D It’s not Mandarin, but Southern Min Chinese dialect, Teochew specifically. I think for Malaysian it’s actually somewhat similar to Hokkien, they’re both coming from the same area and almost mutually intelligible :D
Also actually the most correct answer was Ah Gong (grandpa from my dad’s side), Ah Ma (grandma from my dad’s side), Gua Gong (grandpa from my mom’s side), and Gua Ma (grand ma from my mom’s side) but I just totally forgot to mention :P
Anonymous said: If we were going to look for a reason why that would be considered more dire than usual, I think the possibility of kinslaying rather than politics between the two houses would probably appeal to ainur the most? I think the prayer must have made a difference though, since we don't know what the eagles were watching for. Maybe the song/prayer was what caught their (or manwe's) attention?
You have a point anon, I think it’s a possibility as well, but I find it weird since if kinslaying was really what concerns them, why don’t they do anything to any other kinslaying?
My reason about the politics however, comes from Morgoth’s Ring again about the reason why Manwë did nothing all the while in Valinor while the Ñoldor were in exile.
It wasn’t Fingon’s prayer to Manwë (‘O King to whom all birds are dear…’) that brought Thorondor to help him save Maedhros. It was actually the song minutes previous that brought him looking, and by coincidence he arrived when Fingon actually asked for help.
(This because there’s no way that in the span of a few seconds Manwë could hear, decide to send aid for a Kinslayer, alert Thorondor, and have him fly to the spot Fingon was standing—I only use “narrative bias and error” as an excuse as a very last resort, and it seems more obvious to say that Thorondor has sharp ears and noticed a helpless elf wandering around the mountains.)
(sorry I want to just use replies but it got long, hope you don’t mind me replying here)
I just want to add that actually in Morgoth’s Ring it’s mentioned that Manwë already sent the eagles to live near Thangorodrim after the darkening.
The words ‘utterly forsake’ were underlined, with a marginal note: 'They forbade return and made it impossible for Elves or Men to reach Aman - since that experiment had proved disastrous. But they would not give the Noldor aid in fighting Melkor. Manwë however sent Maia spirits in Eagle form to dwell near Thangorodrim and keep watch on all that Melkor did and assist the Noldor in extreme cases. Ulmo went to Beleriand and took a secret but active part in Elvish resistance.'
So I think either case could be possible. Thorondor and the eagles probably alerted of Fingon’s presence by the song since they’re there the entire time, but it’s also possible that because of his prayer to Manwë that makes Thorondor actually act? Or idek maybe they’ve planned to come since the song but because of the distance they could only come after the prayer?
But the interesting part here is the fact that they’re near Thangorodrim the entire time and don’t save Maedhros (implying that it’s not the extreme case Manwë meant), while once Fingon thought that he has no choice and decided to kill him suddenly they’re there to help. So the ‘extreme cases’ here is not Maedhros’ capture but the possibility of worsening relationship between their houses? (Just imagine the political implications and stuff, even tho at that point it’s probably a mercy)